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and it is your place, when romantically interested, to ask if she's in a relationship - girls aren't going to assume that every boy that talks to them wants to screw them, so she's not going to immediately spout "OH I HAVE A BOYFRIEND" the second you say hello. stop being so goddamn surprised.

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let me begin by addressing the audience to this saga that is quickly devolving into a 'passions'-like soap opera. i thoroughly enjoy all of your comments, especially those that involve childish name-calling. thats fine. honestly, i got a good, refreshing laugh out of it. the unfortunate side to all this though, is that no such things would ever be said to my face; except for the girls, because girls tend to have bigger balls than guys, and im the kind of guy who would not gonna hit a girl (unlike someone like ted, but i'll get to that momentarily). now, i cant really say that this whole thing is none of your business, because both john and i have volunteered our feelings, emotions, etc to any and all who wish to read. but like you all have said about me being "oblivious", you should know that your comments are also available for all to read, and i am the kind of guy that will approach you on the matter. not a threat, but understand that everyone suffers consequences for their actions. all of their actions.

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